The Grand Torus Energy Experiment – Chapter 1

“On Earth, as it is in Heaven.” Lord’s Prayer.
A Discussion with Carl Sagan.

Feeling exhausted I fell asleep in my comfortable bed. Soon after I “Awoke” in a bright cloud of light. Immediately I sensed I felt like my 25-year-old self, young and vigorous again. I could not see anything in the white cloud for a while. I just observed this calm and beautifully peaceful place.

My subconscious mind started asking questions.

“Hello is anyone there?”

“Hello, yes, I am here.”

“What is your name? I cannot see you.”

“You will remember me as Carl Sagan. Call me Carl. I will call you Toe Mass.”

Toe Mass: “Carl, you want to call me Toe Mass. Are you comparing me to the reflexology term that the blocked energy of the brain appears in the big toe mass of nerve cells? Or does this mean you want me to provide information “to the masses”?”

Carl Sagan: “I had in mind the spelling of Tomas (pronounced toe mass, not Thomas). But I do love the name Toe Mass and providing information to the masses. I had in mind that you will be providing information more specifically for the 880 million Highly Sensitive People who have recently been born on the planet Earth.”

Tomas: “So, “Tomas” is what you want to call me. Do you mean like a “Doubting Thomas,” a skeptic who does not believe in anything without having a personal experience of the concept? A person who does not believe in anything simply by Faith?”

Carl Sagan: “Tomas, yes, just like the Apostle Thomas who did not believe in the resurrection of the Christ unless he could first place his finger is the wounds of the Christ. Your skepticism will be a wonderful tool and guiding light as we work through the Big questions you have come to ask.”

Tomas: “Carl, are you the astronomer, cosmologist and astrophysicist scientist who died in 1996 at the age of 62 after writing 600 papers and 20 books?”

Carl Sagan: “Yes Tomas. Let us go into my history during another discussion.”

Tomas: “Ok Carl. Well then, can you tell me what is happening to me?”

Carl Sagan: “Why yes. You have woken up in your dream state or subconscious mind. Your homo sapien, human body is sound asleep in your bed. This means that your conscious mind is asleep while your subconscious mind is still awake and working. The reason you can recall this conversation is that you have had years of practice recording your dreams.”

Tomas: “I normally wake up in the morning remembering my dreams and then write them down in my journal that I keep beside the bed.

Carl Sagan: “Yes, I recall, you have been writing them down since you were twelve, often as many as three dreams each morning.”

Tomas: “So, ‘How’ is it that I have woken up in my dream or subconscious mind having a discussion with you this time?”

Carl Sagan: “The ‘How’ of it is called Lucid Dreaming. A process whereby you are proactive in your dream state and can change the outcome of the dream. Mostly dreams are where you
listen to your subconscious mind for the answers to your prayers. Prayers are like the conscious mind asking the questions while dreaming or meditation is where you are receiving the answers at a subconscious level.”

Tomas: “Where do the answers come from?”

Carl Sagan: “We call this your super-conscious mind. The fifth-dimension record of your higher and finer energy self. This is your Akashic Record, Ether Record or Your Soul record. It is the 95% record of the Universe that exists outside of the 5% “Matter” of the universe at the fourth-dimension. In your western world the 5% matter is described as the mathematical equation of a length, a width and a height that makes up a three-dimensional cube or body in matter. This material body is then supposedly dwelling together within Time. This is described in the western world as space-time of the fourth-dimension.

Tomas: Do you mean the conscious mind, subconscious mind and super conscious mind is like the image I used in “How your mind is like an iceberg.”

Carl Sagan: “Yes Tomas. However, in the super-conscious mind section you have added the four-dimension elements only. You now need to add Ether as the 95% of the universe of the fifth-dimension element and Eternity as the sixth-dimension element external to the universe.”

Tomas: “Carl are there any traditions or mathematics that go beyond the western concept of fourth-dimension Spacetime?”

Carl Sagan: “Yes, Spacetime is the limited measurable thinking of modern western scientists like Stephen Hawking and others. In the Ayurvedic tradition of India, Reflexology tradition of
Egypt and Acupuncture tradition of China from at least 5000 years ago, they have all included a fifth-dimension. The fifth-dimension of their five-pointed star, is the Ether or energy of the fifth-dimension. Ether explains the 95% of the universe that western scientists are calling Dark Energy 72% and Dark Matter 23%. Refer to the graph below

Tomas: “So, Carl you are saying our western scientists are fairly good at measuring the fourth-dimension of Spacetime. I am at present having a conversation with you via a Lucid Dream in the fifth-dimension using my individual subconscious mind. We are accessing the superconscious record of the universe’s Akashic energy record, etheric energy record and my soul’s energy record.”

Carl Sagan: “Yes Tomas. As Albert Einstein said ‘Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be transformed from one form to another.’ Tomas this means that you exited as a piece of energy at the time of the Big Bang at least 13.7 Billion years ago. Your energy has simply transformed into a piece of matter in a rent a body called Tomas at this time.”

Tomas: “Carl, I have become aware of quite a few of my ‘Karmic’ past lives all dated within the last 180,000 years of my inherited DNA patterns. Do you mean I could have had lives in Homo Erectus period that existed for 8 million years? Wait a minute, are you saying I would have existed and observed the creation of our Sun and planet Earth about 4 billion years ago? Carl, I am, already feel myself looking down and observing the universe like you can do with Google space maps.”

Carl Sagan: “Yes Tomas. Could you take a moment and go into subconscious mind? Can you imagine shrinking the whole universe to the size of a pea while it sits in the palm of your hand. Can you now experience yourself as external to the whole universe? Tomas, we call this experience of being external to the universe the sixth-dimension. Do you remember that in the Jewish tradition from about five thousand years ago they used the six-pointed ‘Star of David’? The sixth point on the star represents Source Energy or Eternity as the sixth-dimension external to the universe. This shape of the energy that you are seeing holding the universe together is called a Torus. It is a magnetic energy, a doughnut or apple shape. Hence, we call your universe the grand torus energy experiment.”

Tomas: “This is quite an expansion, from 5% matter or Atoms, to 95% energy (Dark Energy 72% and Dark Matter 23%) of the universe and now to include Source Energy or Eternity beyond the universe as a sixth-dimension. That is quite a bit to comprehend in one conversation.”

Carl: “Yes Tomas. The western scientists are stuck on the fourth-dimension thinking. So, for our next meeting could you please summarize this talk from how you have experienced these dimensions. This is to be like a story of clues. It will be a confirmation for the highly sensitive people on Earth at present that the fifth-dimension is real even though the scientists are not talking about these dimensions. We do not want you to try and prove anything to convince a western scientist. Rather we just want you to document your experiences like this one you are having with me in your Lucid Dreaming state.”

Carl: “Please write this down on your awakening within your human body.”

Tomas: “Carl, I can see you now clearly. You look so young and starry.”

Source. https://www.brainpickings.org/2018/04/05/carl-sagan-jonathan-cott-rolling-stone-interview/

Tomas: “Yes Carl. Thanks for the discussion. I look forward to talking with you soon. I will write this down on awakening.”

Now I can sense this rushing and falling feeling as I contract back into my dense earthly rent a body. Wake up. Wow what an experience. Let me write this down.